Granted I think the FOV in bioshock is a bit low and dizzyness inducing, but all this nonsense about 4:3 cropping is just silly.

[quote]Just played through the demo. The mouse feels lest fubar with my settings :). Thx for the hack :D .

I hope there will be tweaks to fix fps a bit more. I drop to 30fps in firefights, I don't like that :P. (8800gtx )

P.S I am thinking about running the Bioshock demo in windowed widescreen mode at 1920x1200 or 1920x1440 (using the widescreen fix you guys made), while my CRT is set to 2048x1536, just for a laugh. Reckon it will work?

Now lets all go get drunk!

aggies > in your HL2 (or hypothetical) example you are forgetting that at both WS and 4:3 (which you say does the same as Bioshock but the other way around - or something) the FOV is changed to ensure it's not unnaturally zoomed in.

They call them 'FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS' not 'First person but with the head of the first person 2 feet from his body shooters'. Developers kinda made an unnoficial 'standard' of correct field of views in 3D games years ago, it was made because it aproximated the actual human field of view within limited means.

If you read a book on 3D game engine coding it will explain all this to you and it really is accepted as 'conventional wisdom'. It wasn't invented to straight jacket games to not be different, it was arrived at as a way to best immerse the player while *not* causing motion sickness and other issues that some people get with playing 3D games. Whether it was 90degrees or higher (or whatever) is not the point, the 4:3 in bioshock as a very nice FOV (nothing to do with what its showing on screen top and bottom, it could show you a 200 x 200 pixel window in the middle with the rest of the visuals intentionall blocked out but if it retained a natural FOV then it would still feel ok (just look crap and not show much).

WS gamers are not wanting MORE, the 'more' just comes from using a widescreen as its intended. We don't even care about the missing VERTICAL that the 4:3 users get (if that is a design choice)... but what we do care about is the fact they went way below 'conventional standards' on field of view for widescreen and we have this situation now where you feel disembodied (maybe some people don't realise it or feel it, but it's NOT our faults if we do feel it) and where all the info on the screen in this zoomed in field of view is telling your brain to back off your viewing or refocus or whatever, but you *can't* do that because it's not real life, you can't simply move back, or refocus because in this game that zoomed in viewpoint follows you around everywhere.

If we could get past the 'they just want to see extra for their WS money' put downs and concentrate on the screwed up field of view it would make a nice change.