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well i dont have one and probably never will...

one of the reasons is that there are just no racing games for the PC that i would realy like.
on Xbox 360 there is Forza 2
on PS3 there ...will be Grand Turismo 5
For PC there is just nothing that really is able to compete with those two.
(over 300 licensed Cars with Tuning and even with some optical Pimpin! BWAHAHAHA @ 30 - 50 Cars that Need For Speed usualy comes with... :roll: )

Next Problem would be the TFT's that have a TN Panel.
If you set them up like this:


you gonna be outside of the normal viewing field and the sides of the 2 additional TFTs will be darker... so there should be better Panels (which makes it even more expensive)


And in online FPS i would almost call this Hardware Cheating (you can say what you want, to have 3 times the viewfield of your enemy, you just have an unfair advantage.)... of course, if i would have one myself, i wouldnt give a sh*t cuz i want to use my hardware ^^ ... hmm and you might already say that to the diffrence between 4:3 and 16:10 but that is not soooo extreme ;P

...well whatever with my 6000 3D Marks im barely able to handle ONE Screen now ;P

on Xbox 360 there is Forza 2
on PS3 there ...will be Grand Turismo 5
For PC there is just nothing that really is able to compete with those two.

Sorry dude, I am not laughing on you, but I am really had to say something every time I see such categorical statements.
Did you ever try MODDED rFactor? :wink:

one of the reasons is that there are just no racing games for the PC that i would realy like.
on Xbox 360 there is Forza 2
on PS3 there ...will be Grand Turismo 5
For PC there is just nothing that really is able to compete with those two.
(over 300 licensed Cars with Tuning and even with some optical Pimpin! BWAHAHAHA @ 30 - 50 Cars that Need For Speed usualy comes with... :roll: )

you gonna be outside of the normal viewing field and the sides of the 2 additional TFTs will be darker... so there should be better Panels (which makes it even more expensive)

...well whatever with my 6000 3D Marks im barely able to handle ONE Screen now ;P

You need GTR2 and rFactor with a TRACK IR!

I have Xbox360 and PS3 adn I can attest.... IMHO.... GTR2 and rFactor simply blow these two games away with realism and great customization.

ok sorry for off topic but:

@ToLyAn:

you mean this??? im realy not sure what to think about that game...
i know it has a massive modding background and that it's a sim (so no way i'm gonna play this without a wheel)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5486/rfactor220050912174054314zb.jpg
http://www.phlos.com/ovh/rfactor.jpg
http://pitlane.theoldergamers.com/pics/news/2006V8_1_08.jpg
http://www.france-simulation.com/fichiers/rfactor/rFactor%202006-07-23%2016-32-16-43.jpg <- ok nice bunch of cars ...but i dont think you can be able to drive lagfree with so many cars?
http://www.digitaldisplacement.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/rfx.jpg
http://www.bsim-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bporsche3.jpg
http://cms.gram.pl/sites/motogames/galleries/12/232.jpg (what about that helmet O_o )

Some things look nice, some look like GTA3 or so, i honestly don't get it...


Forza 2 (i'm actually playing this one):

http://s4.directupload.net/images/080107/ptk9gtqf.jpg
http://s2.directupload.net/images/071228/29x9nyx2.jpg
http://s3.directupload.net/images/071224/tudhyhbb.jpg
http://s5.directupload.net/images/080107/w2cq3x4f.jpg
http://s6.directupload.net/images/080107/njrczp2f.jpg
http://s2.directupload.net/images/071207/rkysq6ld.jpg
http://s4.directupload.net/images/071207/qgb278hx.jpg
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/l3avewk9/4294af611c8949628786fefb6b4a2337.jpg
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/i8xi3jrt/1d1fe8480c2d4039ba17696704efd35b.jpg


i tried the GTR2 Demo once but i didnt like it much... realism ok

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/281/reviews/931477_20061010_screen003.jpg
hmm... :-/

No, I am not going to continue this conversation in this post as in that case it will be 100% off topic. And I have probably made a mistake having mentioned rF as an example since it is doesn’t make any sense even to compare a hard core simulator to games for consoles. Absolutely different game genres targeted for absolutely different game audiences which have absolutely different priorities. Sorry.

I split the thread, so you may continue...

i've played forza 2 and its a good game, the best console racer i've ever player. however, once i crossed over to the pc, basically, there is no comparison. idk why you'd come on here and off the bat say that the console racers are better. if you feel that way great, keep it to yourself. besides the fact that i think that statement couldn't be further from the truth and makes you look a little silly, i will say stick with your consoles and all their looks and 300 million cars. thats all consoles are about anyway, making the game look really nice, adding a million cars having you tune them up. do yourself a favor, open up your gtr2 demo and go into the garage area, you want to feel like a racer look at how many things you can tune there.

no i'm not talking about adding a supercharger or off the bat better suspension already tuned, no, you have to tweak the car yourself. as far as the driving physics are concerned, nothing i've played on the consoles is in the same league. you spark me as that guy that is all about looks, someone who wants to see the relections of your car and the shiny track surfaces. jump on a race track and be great on the first lap. a better way to put it is, consoles are for the masses, the companies want to sell a million games so their target will be looks, and a nice easy game that a lot of people will be good at. pc, wow, was i a fool for not coming over sooner. sure the games may not look as good as some console games but lets face it, pc companies main concern is realism first, eye candy second, although the games don't look bad by any means. i'd put my money everytime on this statement, give 2 guys, one a console racer, one a pc racer a brand new game that neither ever played before with hardcore physics, i'd put my money on the pc racer everytime to whip his butt. like the post above, console racing and pc racing are aimed at two different people. however if you want to feel like a racer, nothing will feel better then pc. go ahead and get yourself triplehead2go, trackIR, and an ecci 6000 setup and come back to me after you've done some laps, i think you'll be sold.

as far as not being able to compete, have you tried:
GTR2
Race 07
GTLegends
Nascar Racing 2003 Season
Richard Burns Rally
Live for Speed
Rfactor
any one of these games easyily blows out Forza 2 and i'm sure it will GT5, never played it, never will. after all, why go out for burgers when you got steak at home.

Speaking about "Hardware Cheating", why stop at monitors? Do you consider people with quad-core machines to be cheaters because they have four times the CPU power compared to a single core CPU users? How about these fancy new mice such as Logitech G9, it allows cheaters twice as precise in-game control compared to -MY- mouse. More RAM means less disk swapping which results in less stuttering during playing. Are people with 4 gigs of RAM cheaters compared to those with just 1 GB because on their machine a game will not perform hiccups during intense fighting?

I would agree with you that in a professional tournament all players should have the exact same hardware. But what you are doing is setting arbitrary limits of what is considered cheating on an open platform such as PC where more money has always meant better gaming experience.

I understand this presents problem for those who cannot afford buying exotic Alienware hardware with curved displays, but for such people there is already an excellent alternative - consoles.

And in online FPS i would almost call this Hardware Cheating (you can say what you want, to have 3 times the viewfield of your enemy, you just have an unfair advantage.)...

If this was any other forum you would get called a moron.
That statement is so very cliched and overused, and lacks alot of brain power. SOund like a very left socialist view. If everyone can't have one, no one can have one. I think it stems from jealousy. Yes it is an advantage, but not an unfair one by any standards, you don't spend that sort of money to gain the so slight extra perephery view advantage, you buy it for the immersion. If it was a unfair advantage, why don't all the HACKERS have one? Oh, Oh I know! Because it costs m o n e y.

You can't limit the hardware choise of people just because others haven't found a way of acquiring it. You can't limit screen resolution to 800x600 just because Billy can't get a bigger screen. You can't limit people usings 8000DPI mice because dopey Darren over there only has a 400DPI mouse. The same way you can't limit CPU's, GPU's, Keyboards, 5.1 Surround sound...the list goes on. The name of the game here in PC world is immersion. The more immersive the greater the experience of the game.

Now a software hack is a whole different ball game. Anyone can use those, that's just a matter of dropping your standards to remove the need for certain skills that every other player has to rely on. They do not increase the immersive gaming experience and goes a way to changing the way the game operates, ie changing the RULES of the game.

Bigger screens, better mice, more powerful hardware does not change the rules, does not change the fundamentals of the game. It merely increases or enhances the experience, which is what PC gaming is all about. Having better hardware give you a minor advantage do to better performance but does not eliminate the need for aiming skills, movement skills, map skills etc, where a software hack goes acheives elimination of the need for these skills.

Here is a metephor: If a Formula one driver developes a TRANSPARENT helmet and can thus see more, and he is the only one with one in the field, should the helmet be banned because the rest of the field are behind the times? Is the helmet going to steer the car, accelerate, brake? No it isn't. Just means the driver has a better view due to the fact that he or is team went out of thier way to develop better hardware. Progress I think they call it.

Like the previous poster said, if you want limits on progress, the happy land of consoles will welcome you with open arms, or some Communist country.

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[quote]And in online FPS i would almost call this Hardware Cheating (you can say what you want, to have 3 times the viewfield of your enemy, you just have an unfair advantage.)...

If this was any other forum you would get called a moron.

You can't limit the hardware choise of people just because others haven't found a way of acquiring it. You can't limit screen resolution to 800x600 just because Billy can't get a bigger screen. You can't limit people usings 8000DPI mice because dopey Darren over there only has a 400DPI mouse. The same way you can't limit CPU's, GPU's, Keyboards, 5.1 Surround sound...the list goes on. The name of the game here in PC world is immersion. The more immersive the greater the experience of the game.

Now a software hack is a whole different ball game.

Bigger screens, better mice, more powerful hardware does not change the rules, does not change the fundamentals of the game. It merely increases or enhances the experience, which is what PC gaming is all about. Having better hardware give you a minor advantage do to better performance but does not eliminate the need for aiming skills, movement skills, map skills etc, where a software hack goes acheives elimination of the need for these skills.

Here is a metephor: If a Formula one driver developes a TRANSPARENT helmet and can thus see more, and he is the only one with one in the field, should the helmet be banned because the rest of the field are behind the times? Is the helmet going to steer the car, accelerate, brake? No it isn't. Just means the driver has a better view due to the fact that he or is team went out of thier way to develop better hardware. Progress I think they call it.

Like the previous poster said, if you want limits on progress, the happy land of consoles will welcome you with open arms, or some Communist country.

Wow... VERY WELL PUT. I may save this reply and use for other Moron's if you would allow me :D