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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 09:50 
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http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_extreme_hd_home.html

They support HD TV???? In what way? You can watch HDTV on ATI and Matrox as well what is it that nVidia is offering?


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 13:26 
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I think you'll find that that is not, specifically, HDTV. It is HD, but not TV. And it's actually greater than HD, as 'HD' is 1920x1080.

It's not so much that ATi and Matrox don't support it (although I'm not certain any Matrox cards support 2560x1600 - and I know the TH2Go doesn't...) but the fact that ATi haven't exactly tried to make widescreen gaming easy...

Marketing is everything.


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 13:42 
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Marketing is everything.


Indeed it is. eg. Microsoft.


Some may say HD video is pointless, but there was a preview trailer for Ghost Recon Advanced Warrior that was released at 1920x1200... and the quality was MINDBLOWING. nVidia doesn't need to sell HD - I'm already sold! :lol:


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 13:49 
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The point is that Matrox is pushing the TripleHead and surround gaming - more power to them, it's a good idea. nVidia are pushing gaming on one panel, at ultra-high resolutions - that's good too. ATi, on the other hand (perhaps caused by doubts and worries over the AMD buyout) seem to have missed the 'next step' of display evolution.

nVidia will grab large portions of the 'XHD' (as they coin it) market because they're so visible.

When it comes down to it, it's business. It makes sense to take advantage of a competitor who dropped the ball.


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 14:07 
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no offense to any ATI fans reading this, but ATI has always been considered the follower of nVidia. nVidia pushes out new R&D technologies like shaders 3.0 and HDR, and ATI implement them too... shortly after. That's not necessarily a negative thing.


I'm scratching my head trying to think of any new innovations that ATi has brought to the market place; except for unified shaders. ATI capatilized it's market position after nVidia goofed up with the FX series.
But other than that, ATi never held the ball in the first place.


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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2006, 14:27 
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Not quite right:

They were the first consumer company to get multi-GPU cards working with the Rage Fury Max.

Also, they were the first to properly support DirectX 9.

ATi's stance on Shader Model 3 was proven correct, although it cost them bragging rights. The next series was out before most games took advantage of SM3, or were actually capable of SM3 work at any decent framerate.


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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006, 00:36 
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Me Con-foosed. :?

Are they saying that widescreen resolutions like 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 are XHD? Is that all it takes for "Extreme HD Gaming"?


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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006, 16:00 
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I would think that WSXGA+ and WUXGA are 'high def'... while WQUXGA (or whatever 2560x1600 is) is XHD.


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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006, 19:07 
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I would think that WSXGA+ and WUXGA are 'high def'... while WQUXGA (or whatever 2560x1600 is) is XHD.

They actually coin all three as XHD, as can be seen in the first graphic here.


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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006, 21:07 
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I guess theyre just emphasising that the resolutions are far higher than the 720p that the games consoles are internally rendering the games at (even if they do scale it up to 1080i).

I wish ATI would do some more advertising...


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