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Okay, okay, I get it. Tearing isn't an issue for me anymore. There. Now talk about the technical aspects. Let's say I'm playing BF3 on max with AA. A 2GB card will hit the VRAM limit. This means getting a 7970 or a 7950 (since tearing is not an issue, remember?). What would you do? Or am I asking the impossible now?

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What would I do? I'd wait for quantity levels of the 7000-series to settle down a bit and for shops to quit price gouging. Really depends upon where the prices settle though and if NVIDIA causes a price war with Kepler later in the year. I fully expect the 7970/7950 to adjust down to 6970/6950 pricing plus $50 or so for the 3GB ram upgrade.

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Okay, okay, I get it. Tearing isn't an issue for me anymore. There. Now talk about the technical aspects. Let's say I'm playing BF3 on max with AA. A 2GB card will hit the VRAM limit. This means getting a 7970 or a 7950 (since tearing is not an issue, remember?). What would you do? Or am I asking the impossible now?

If you are a guy that is easily annoyed by low fps, no aa, tearing;), stuttering etc. then playing bf3 on ultra (msaa enabled) and on triple 1080p resolution is not going to be possible. You need two 79xx cards for that and then you get horrible microstuttering. Fraps will tell you the game is running at 60 fps for example and it would feel like under 30 fps to you, so the second card would be useless. You might as well just buy one 79xx and play on high-ish. That is what I am going to do and that is also what I would recommend to you.

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What would I do? I'd wait for quantity levels of the 7000-series to settle down a bit and for shops to quit price gouging. Really depends upon where the prices settle though and if NVIDIA causes a price war with Kepler later in the year. I fully expect the 7970/7950 to adjust down to 6970/6950 pricing plus $50 or so for the 3GB ram upgrade.

Well, I don't have time to wait. I have a buyer for my MSI R5870 and he's waiting on the damn thing nearly two months now, since I have such a hard time picking a good card. I am obsessed with it really. Look at my post history :p

If you are a guy that is easily annoyed by low fps, no aa, tearing;), stuttering etc. then playing bf3 on ultra (msaa enabled) and on triple 1080p resolution is not going to be possible. You need two 79xx cards for that and then you get horrible microstuttering. Fraps will tell you the game is running at 60 fps for example and it would feel like under 30 fps to you, so the second card would be useless. You might as well just buy one 79xx and play on high-ish. That is what I am going to do and that is also what I would recommend to you.

Low fps, no AA: that's why I'm getting a high end card;
Tearing: That's why I'm thinking about the Asus card;
Stuttering: That's why I ain't getting Crossfire (or SLI for that matter)

I was in doubt whether to add that I ment high and not ultra settings, I should've done that.
Anyways, I think my quest has come to an end. I think the only good choice for me is the Asus HD7970-DC2-3GD5 or the HD7970-DC2T-3GD5.

Unless someone comes with some really good arguments why I should not buy this card before it releases in the Netherlands.

Thank you all so much for your help, and I might write an article about the Asus when I get it.

Moose

PS: Wijkert, I'd like to stay in touch and see what your experiences will be with your new card.

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PS: Wijkert, I'd like to stay in touch and see what your experiences will be with your new card.

Sure mate, will do.

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Oh, nearly forgot! What adapters should I order with it? Link with choices.

Keep in mind that I need DVI to Displayport, not DVI to mini-Displayport. What would you guys recommend?

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Am I missing something? Every graphics card I've had always comes with adapters? In fact all of my ATI cards come with a selection of Display port adapters. Why do you need to buy more? Sadly the mini display port adapters I already have wont be of any use but wont the card come with the correct adapters?

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Ah I see what you mean. Sadly my rig is without a graphics card at all at the moment. So although it may be nice to have the new DCII card when it comes out. I dont think I can live

a.) without the PC up and running for another couple of weeks at least
b.) run the risk of these being silly money when they do come out. The XFX Black edition DD is £499 here in the UK... the Asus is better quality and rumours are of good pricing for this, if XFX can charge that much Asus definately can.
c.) need to spend extra cash on top of the card to get adapters
d.) limit myself if I wanted trifire any time in the future because fitting three of these in one machine could be a squeeze
e.).... who am i trying to convince I'd love two of these but I cant wait....

Looks like I'll be getting two standard 7970s again.

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i7 3770k, P8Z77v Pro, 16gb Ram,2x Samsung 840 SSD RAID 0 + 4.5tb storage, 7970 Oc'd + 7950 in crossfire, 3x SP2309w monitors + 1 acer monitor, Asus D2X Xonar, Creative T40 Speakers plus satalite speakers + audio transducer

Am I missing something? Every graphics card I've had always comes with adapters? In fact all of my ATI cards come with a selection of Display port adapters. Why do you need to buy more? Sadly the mini display port adapters I already have wont be of any use but wont the card come with the correct adapters?

Yes, this graphics card comes with some adapters, but not three DVI to Displayport! It would be nice but totally unrealistic if they did that :p

And about the release date, here in Holland I guess it's around two weeks from now. I think that counts global though, I'll snif around for some more info.

Moose

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Looks like I'll be getting two standard 7970s again.

I think that's the right way to go for you.

Oh, nearly forgot! What adapters should I order with it? Link with choices.
Keep in mind that I need DVI to Displayport, not DVI to mini-Displayport. What would you guys recommend?

Bump, for I don't want to start a new thread about this.

Also, for the people interested, I will be writing a very in-depth review about the Asus HD7970-DC2T-3GD5. I'll post the link in this page when I've finished it!

Moose

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